04 Apr 2017
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Craft ripe pu-erh. Interview with Tea Mail.

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This is the interview to project "Tea Mail" (Minsk, Belarus) about our own production technology of ripe pu-erh, we are developing since 2013.

The interview turned out to be unexpectedly detailed, however, we will gladly answer additional questions in the comments, if any.

TM: How long have you been thinking of an experiment to produce ripe pu-erhs?

Since we discovered Thai pu-erhs and found out that there are not enough ripe (shou) pu-erhs in Thailand we started to think of producing my owns.

Actually, various Internet articles and videos pushed us to those experiments. As they say, Chinese technology is not used to produce ripe pu-erh out of less than 3 tons of material. Allegedly, a smaller amount of material will not heat up to the desired temperature and, in general, the fermentation process will go wrong. We’ve begun to think why so.

That time it seemed to us that the vertical pressure of the big mass is important. But then on photos we saw the tea spread out over a large area and makes only one-meter thick layer. To make one meter high heap 3 tons are not required. Moreover, as you know, Liu Bao cha has been done for hundreds of years and its taste is very close to ripe pu-erh. To make it Chinese use just 20-30 kilos of raw materials, but fermentation takes at least one and a half year.

That is how the idea to make ripe puerh tea in a basket was born. With the only difference - short fermentation period, we did not see any serious physical obstacles to this.

Before start. After fermentation tea looses about 18-20% of its initial weight.

TM: What prevented you from starting? What was you afraid of?

At first, of course, we were afraid that the raw materials wouldn’t warm up to the minimum required 50 degrees. As it turned out later, this problem do not arise at all. To warm up the pile, a small amount of leaves like five kilograms is already enough. There were other difficulties. For example, when you work with a small volume, it is difficult to keep its humidity within certain limits during the entire fermentation period. A small pile dries very quickly. Adding a new portion of water should be very careful. The overwatering leads to too rapid processes inside the basket. And there is a high risk that the material will "burn out".

The basket just after watering and stirring, the temperature rises up quickly.

But in general, there was also nothing to be afraid of, because in the first experiments we’ve been risking a small amount of the cheapest material that we could find.

TM: What preparations did you do for production? How did you choose time, technology and mao cha? Where do you search for information?

There was no special preparation. We did not choose special time.

We simply asked everyone who visited China and watched the process with his own eyes about the process. We tried to get a general picture, made some hypotheses.

The problem was that in different places of China, technologists work a little differently. Some covers the heap tightly with several layers of warm sheets. Others are just throwing one layer of synthetic burlap and that's all. There were a lot of questions: how much water to pour and how often, how often to stir, what kind of mold should appear and at what stages.

After watering we took the tea out of the basket for thorough stirring

These were only the very first questions. Gradually they became more complicated and still continue to become more complicated. For three years of relatively successful work, the number of questions has only increased, but they have become more particular and tricky.

Right now, we’re just making new batches, gradually shifting the numbers, trying to find the right combination. You need to take into account a lot of factors - texture and consistency of the original mao cha, its mass, season (when fermentation is carried out) and much more. For example, for a long time we’ve been afraid to use young and expensive material, as we understood it could behave differently and all our producing markers could not fit.

Breaking lumps

TM: How was it going on in reality?

Well, the very first experiment went to fertilize the nearest flowers. It was not clear what was happening to the material, what to expect from it at different stages, what to pay attention to. We took a pause and began to ask again. Gradually, the most important moments cleared up and we put other tea in a basket for fermentation, more serious and suitable for ripe pu-erh, to cut off at least the material factor.

The main difficulty was that, even knowing some technological indicators and markers from the Chinese, we had to immediately change them and fit to our own micro-sizes.

The second batch turned out to be very similar to ripe puer by appearance, but it was absolutely undrinkable. Nobody knew what to do with it. We did not want just to throw our work out, but there was no hope for this tea either. So it was just left it in a box, we took a pause again and switched to other tea. Several times during next 6 months someone tried to get rid of it, but something stopped us every time. Then, one day, this box caught someone’s eyes again and to clear our conscience before we finally threw it away, we decided to try it again. And, what a miracle, almost all the unpleasant notes have left! The tea turned out to be quite decent shou pu-erh. It simply has rested. Not perfect, of course, but not repulsive. Thus it became clear that the initial hypotheses in common, proved to be correct.

With this tea everything goes right

After this first successful experiment, we started to produce batch by batch, working with the same material. Then somehow tried the other, but it turned out something completely strange. The tea was not able to brew at all, the infusion didn’t turned out, neither in color, nor in taste. Somewhere we made mistake and the fermentation went wrong. This also happens in Menghai, as far as we know.

TM: Did the expectations justify themselves? What is the result?

By the way, about a month ago we opened a pack of ripe pu-erh from that first successful batch. Someone packed a sample before and forgot about it. This time the taste was whiskey. Not just woody, but exactly barrel whiskey, without any extraneous or unpleasant notes, and without alcohol, of course. Very interesting taste profile, probably even exquisite. In that bag also was a piece of pu-erh resin (cha gao) - who knows whether this affected or not. It is a pity that we don’t have that shou any more.

Now we can say that the expectations have justified themselves much more than we could have guessed. We take any material and work, mainly, on the purity of taste and on the taste notes needed. There is a vast field for activity: one step away and the taste changes, mostly not quite where you would like it to go.

Final drying

TM: What do the numbers in the names mean? What exactly, in details, were the differences in the production of your three ripe pu-erhs?

The names are not tricky. The first pair of digits is the number of the garden, where we take the mao cha from. And the second - the number of the batch, which technological parameters we began to use further for this material. In fact, there are enough changes already for new numbers, but we don’t hurry to rename because buyers get used to these numbers.

In ripe pu-erh numbered 0302, we use the material with a small amount of buds. But the advantage of this mao cha is that it is from 2010 year, so it’s already ripened a little. It is easier to stir, the leaves do not stick together and it keeps water well. Raw pu-erh from this material enjoys a decent demand, due to its maturity and low price - the cakes go under the name “Dreaming bird”.

Ripe pu-erh Tea Side 0201 is made from spring harvest of 2016 from 300-500 years old trees. This cultivar of trees has a unique taste of milk caramel, which is transformed into raspberry tones after deep fermentation. Raw pu-erh from the same material, but harvest of 2014 we sell under the name "Fox".

To produce ripe puer 0101 (coming soon) we use mao cha from another interesting place. The material for it is the spring 2016 raw pu-erh "Dragon". This 0101 ripe puerh we ferment into tea heads, which is most convenient form for it. Young and fresh material instantly clumps into lumps, which we just don’t see the point to destroy. Pu-erh heads are interesting because the processes of fermentation and further maturation go there in different way, since a dense natural pressing in clumps causes different climate for microorganisms.

As was told before, there is a vast field for activity and we’re going to continue our experiments with different materials. So this list of ripe pu-erhs will be replenishing.

Tea Side 0302 - soup is quite dence

TM: Tell us a little about your plans, problems you are going to work on and something else.

We plan to make recipes, mix different materials. We put purple Myanmar (Burmese) loose-leaf raw pu-erh into the basket for fermentation. We all are very curious what will turn out of it. Myanmar ripe pu-erh made in Thailand - in our opinion, this should be interesting. At the same time, we’re experimenting with different ways of storage, here is also a lot to think about.

But the main thing, of course, is the developing the corrections for various conditions of fermentation and materials. The main problem here is time. It takes from three to six months to obtain only an initial assessment of the changes we made. And this is only for one type of material, for one season, etc. Unfortunately, this problem can not be avoided, pu-erhs need time.

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